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by Neill_McNeill from WGHP-TV FOX 8

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Next week (when a lot of people will be on vacation and all the children will be out of school) can't come soon enough. Everyone--it seems---needs some separation from everyday life to de-stress.

Nothing illustrates this better than the fight (supposedly among parents) at the Oak Hill Elementary School Christmas program last night (Tuesday November 18). As I and others in the newsroom were putting this story together, I remember asking myself, "what is this world coming to?"

A viewer (who happened to be rolling her camcorder) called us after the incident and brought us the tape. You can watch the entire thing here on the website. What's so troubling about this is the altercation happened during what was supposed to be a happy time for elementary school children. We're talking first, second, and third graders---many of whom got to see these adults behaving badly---DURING A CHRISTMAS PROGRAM!

What sort of example is this? I don't envy the parents and teachers who didn't have anything to do with the fight, but are having to explain today to these children what happened. This is something everyone at last night's program---including these children--will probably remember the rest of their lives.

My question is, "was it worth it?" Couldn't these parents have had the courtesy to walk outside and discuss their differences instead of exposing the children to a shouting, hair-pulling episode that brought the holiday program to a screeching halt?

And for those who undoubtedly question our decision to air the videotape, I'm sorry. This is news. It happened in a very public place. Not all news is easy to swallow. Will it encourage "copycat" incidents? I don't think so. Does our airing the tape somehow endorse or condone this type of behavior? No. Will children watching this on television be affected negatively? No---especially if their parents are there (as they should be) to put this incident in perspective.

At the very least, I hope someone will watch this altercation and maybe think twice about trying to solve differences physically and in front of children.

Yes, I believe Rodney King did say it best, "can't we just all get along?"

 

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acomp
Dec 19, 2007 | 12:13 PM

I feel so sad for the children who worked so hard and long to perform this program. I bet they wanted their moms and families to be so proud of them. Instead now a few children are ashamed and embarrassed by their immature, uncontrolled parents. What kind of example did these parents set for their children? Why are schoolchildren more mature and well behaved then their parents? We wonder why we have crime and violence in the school. Could it be the examples they are receiving at home? I hope these parents see themselves on TV and I hope they are ashamed of their behave. I hope they are embarrassed for ruining the night for all those involved. Shame, shame!

Emily_Byrd read my blog view my photos
Dec 19, 2007 | 1:37 PM

Neill: AMEN, BROTHER!

As usual, you are far more eloquent than I.

old_buzzard
Dec 19, 2007 | 1:41 PM

I agree with Neil. Videos like this ought to be shown so maybe people will wake up and realize that our actions or lack of same have consequences. The years of lowering standards of what is acceptable for behavior, education, and just plain old teaching the difference between right and wrong in this country is going to reap a whirlwind of backlash like we've never seen. All I can say is I feel sorry for our kids and grandkids that will have to live in this fouled up world

karlagreta1977
Dec 19, 2007 | 2:32 PM

I am here to tell you the truth this so cald volunteer started it all! while being there she herassed these two ladys using foul language and disrespectfull rasist coments taward them many people have left complaints about her and nothing has been done these two ladys are inosent they were just tring to defend thier selves

udontneedtoknow
Dec 19, 2007 | 2:48 PM

I feel sorry for the children as well. They worked so hard only to have what should have been their attention brought to these childish parents. These girls(not women) could have at least gone outside or waited until they got home to start this fight. And these people are raising more children to be trash just like them. Where is social services? Children raising children.

udontneedtoknow
Dec 19, 2007 | 2:55 PM

In response to karlagreta1977, I am a firm believer in the right to defend yourself and surely if someone hit me I would fight back, but the girls could have waited until they were outside or the play was over at least if nothing else. I mean whats more important someone calling you names or your children?

babiebobo
Dec 19, 2007 | 3:10 PM

listen here i was there i saw all that happen that night that woman that is a volunteer started it all the hole night she walked back and fourth saying rasist coments and using bad language to these two wemen in the altercation her and her family ganged up on these two wemen but i my self think that there is nothing wrong with this because the two wemen werent doing but defending thier self and all the others who were hurt by her it was tine that someone put her in her place and these two wemen did it and yall know that you all would have done the same thing so yall needs to stop haten on ma homies for taking up for thier selves and just know that i gots made love for you two girls

Neill_McNeill read my blog view my photos
Dec 19, 2007 | 3:15 PM

I've exercised my "delete" option to eliminate some of the earlier comments re: a statement from Dr. Grier this morning for two reasons 1) I felt the comments were getting off topic and 2)the school system has released an updated statement from Oak Hill's principal which I will share with you below. NM.

On the evening of December 18, 2007, Oak Hill Elementary had a Holiday Program at 6:30 pm. At approximately 7:30, an argument between parents escalated to physical violence in the middle of the gym. Chairs were thrown. Obscenities were loudly exclaimed. Three mothers did physical punch each other and two other mothers attempted to break up the fight. The fighting continued for approximately 10 minutes in total including the yelling and the physical hitting.

According to witnesses, the argument started by a father who approached another student about pushing his daughter while on stage. The one parent (not of the student who pushed) told the father to not talk to a child about that but to take it up with the principal. At that point, two other parents (twin sisters) began yelling and shouting. I had to stop the program and remind everyone to be respectful to the children on stage. However, the yelling escalated further and thus the fight began.

The police were called to help by multiple members of the audience as well as a staff member who was directed to call by me. Once the police arrived, only a few people who were actually involved were questioned. However the twin sisters had left the school property by then. The police are investigating the in

Neill_McNeill read my blog view my photos
Dec 19, 2007 | 3:17 PM

(((statement continued from above)))

the incident and charges are pending. We received word that a parent did tape the incident however; she did not share that with me. You may have already seen the tape attached to Fox 8 website.

I am proceeding with a ban for each of the parents who were actually participating in the fight. I have also received word this morning that one of the parents may actually live in Davidson County. My social worker is investigating that at this time.

We have also received a call this morning from one non-English speaking parent who informed us that their youngest child (not of school age) was hit with a chair in the head. She did not take the child to the doctor and the child is fine. But the accident report is being filed any way.

This is the latest update on the situation. Thanks for your help.

Sara Roberts
Principal
Oak Hill Elementary

karlagreta1977
Dec 19, 2007 | 3:21 PM

in responce to udontneedtoknow what are you supose to do when someone atacts you!!!!

udontneedtoknow
Dec 19, 2007 | 4:50 PM

Thank you for the update Neill. The only person who had the right to hit anyone in this situation is the innocent parent whose child was hit in the head with a chair. So if the other two mothers were only stiking in defense to being physically(not verbally) attacked then they werent wrong, but if they simply couldnt ignore the other parent or "volunteer" at least until the play was over or until they were outside then they are ignorant and care more about words coming out someone's mouth they dont even know than their own children. And the person who started the whole incident by cursing, hitting, or ganging up on someone should be banned permantly from the school. In reference to the two comments left after me Please get on my level before you even try to address me, what is atacts? And to the other comment you sound like you are in grade school yourself (stop hatin on my homies) come on now people we are talking about people that are supposed to be grown, not in high school. And if that someone was making racist comments or cursing then I would have been extremely mad, but I wouldnt have responed during the children's performance. Basically you are saying its more important to put someone you dont even know in there place than to pay attention to your own child(ren)'s class play. Grow up people!

wurd
Dec 19, 2007 | 6:55 PM

After watching the video and reading certain entries in this blog, I better understand how some of today's children grow up unable to read, write, speak, or act in a civilized manner.
Reading certain entries, I cannot help but think that adult authority figures for these children are on full display. The lack of common sense, inability to reason through quite simple scenarios, and the complete failure to put together well-rounded, coherent thoughts explains to me the tough situation these children are in.
Education starts at home...think about it.

Tip: Before submitting a blog entry, type your entry in Microsoft Word, spell check it, then copy and paste.

bodge69
Dec 19, 2007 | 7:36 PM

I thank it's wrong to throw race in the mix but i do thank that all who were involved shod face charges what are we teaching our kid's that it's ok if we don't get cought the school kneads to do what's right

babiebobo
Dec 19, 2007 | 8:38 PM

HAHAHA you all are so funny but the last time I checked we were talking about this fight not whether or not we can spell but back to the story no one threw any chairs and no one got hit in the head so don’t believe every thing you hear just because its on TV and for your information I’m not stupid just because made mistake or because of the way I talk

catfishingdude read my blog view my photos
Dec 19, 2007 | 8:54 PM

No one had no right to throw a punch, kick, or anything else. These parents are very immature and they have let their children down!

karlagreta1977
Dec 19, 2007 | 9:12 PM

lets get real nobody really knows what happen only the three ladies that was involved may i remind you this volunteer was making threats for weeks before this happen I mean get real Mrs. Roberts has known for sometime now that this so called volunteer was crazy! the sisters involved told Mrs. Roberts many times butt yet she did nothing! I just pray that the truth will come out and set these sisters free of guilt yes it was wrong what they did butt their is always other sides of the story people only say what sounds good then tell the truth them girls were only defending their self’s say what you please butt there is a big cover up going on !MRS.ROBERTS NEVER DID ANY THING TO STOP THIS FROM HAPPENING SHE RATHER HAVE HER LITTLE HELPER THEN DOING WHATS NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THE FIRST PLACE!

ladyorchid read my blog
Dec 19, 2007 | 11:12 PM

I have to say this. There is no excuse for violence in our schools! No matter what this "so called" volunteer did or said, the violence was wrong.
This happened in a school, in the presence of children! Wake up people!
Real adults would not have lost control like this!
Thank you Fox 8 for caring.

bodge69
Dec 19, 2007 | 11:15 PM

the race card is getting old that just makes it all ok to kick punch and show the kid's that it's ok to take the law in you're on hands give me a break

Councilman-Pugh read my blog view my photos
Dec 19, 2007 | 11:37 PM

Many good things are happening in the Oak Hill Community. There is a Boy and Girls Club which offers tutoring and recreational activities. There is a Kids Cafe which feeds the children after school. There is a food pantry, clothes closet and toy shop all provided by the pastor of Ward Street Methodist Church and volunteers from throughout the city who are trying to instill love and respect by example. Those involved in the events of Tuesday evening were totally out of line. The children are the victims. I would really like to sit down and talk to those involved and try to make sense of what happened and just maybe we can mend the damage and heal the wounds and go forward with good things for the community.

erikhuey
Dec 19, 2007 | 11:58 PM

See my blog discussion on this today:
http://erikhuey.wordpress.com/2007/12/19/parents-fight-
at-oak-hills-christmas-program-fox-8/

Where did we go wrong as a society?

E.C. Huey
2008 Guilford Co. School Board candidate
www.hueyforguilfordschoolboard.org

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