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"Just so you know, we're ashamed the President of the United States is from Texas."

That's the quote that lit the fire of disgust and hatred for the country band, The Dixie Chicks.  Radio stations around the country are still refusing to play their music, even though they recently won five Grammys.

 

There are other doozies out there:

 

"We have a lot of kids who don't know what works means. They think work is a four-letter word." --Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY),

 

"It's a number." --White House Press Secretary Tony Snow, on the U.S. military death toll in Iraq reaching the 2,500 milestone. 

 

"We need somebody to put rat poisoning in Justice Stevens' creme brulee." --Conservative commentator Ann Coulter

 

OK... dumb, insensitive, borderline scary...  but all protected by the First Amendment and the speakers of these quotes are enjoying much success in their jobs.  There are no mass boycotts because of their poor choice of words. 

 

And yes, people who are exposed to lines like these have the right to be offended or outraged.   I have a problem with people who have the "If you don't agree with me, shut up" mindset. 

 

You can say what you want.  I can say what I want.  They can say what they want. 

 

It's a bunch of words.  It's not an armed attack on our country.  Really.  It's not.

 

Solidarity and boycotts because they don't like President Bush?  

 

What, are we going to boycott other businesses if we find out the owners contribute to a campaign we don't like?  Are you going to stop waving to your neighbor who has the sign in his front yard for the "other" candidate?

 

Of course not.  We may get into some spirited discussions or decide not to talk about the subject, but it's not going to stop the world if we don't agree.

 

The Dixie Chicks didn't agree with The President.  The majority of voting Americans did.  His career wasn't ever in jeopardy because of them.  End of story. 

 

 

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smack read my blog
Feb 13, 2007 | 12:44 PM

Emily,
Since served in the Military and defended your right to free speech I accept what you are saying but I must disagree with the term it is only words.....I have no problem with someone disagreeing with the president of the United States as long as you are in the United States and are talking with Americans who have a vested interest in the Office of the President..I disagree with the Dixie Chicks disrespecting the both the President and his office on foreign soil. Why did they not come to the US and give their opinion..Becasue they felt they could get away with it on a foreign soil..so what if they won grammy's I do not allow the liberal media and entertainers who have more award shows to pat themselves on their back than the law should allow to control what I think of people. Again I have been there and done that but regardless of what I feel about the United States of America I have enough respect of the Commander in Chief ( regardless if like the title or not it is his) to not air my dirty laundry to a foreign country who I feel might be sympathetic to my cause....

slfarr78 read my blog
Feb 13, 2007 | 4:07 PM

Emily,
I was planning on starting a blog about the Dixie Chicks, but you beat me to it! I absolutely agree with what you said. I have heard people say that we are in Iragi to help give those people the same freedoms that we have. Did we forget the the freedom is speech is one of those freedoms?

I'm a very liberal person, so needless to say, I hear comments made around here all the time that I don't agree with, but that's ok. We are fortunate to have the freedom to express our thoughts and opinions.

Natalie Maines has expressed her feelings both in another country as well as in the US. I don't think it's a big secret that our leader has disappointed many Americans, both Republicans and Democrats, in his handling of Iraq.

My aunt is a republican who voted for Bush and stopped listening to the Dixie Chicks because of their comments. I'm a liberal who voted for Kerry and stopped listening to Toby Keith because of his comments. Do we still love each other? Absoutely. Do we talk politics? Absolutely not. We do, however, both value and use our freedom of speech. We agree to disagee.

Emily_Byrd read my blog view my photos
Feb 13, 2007 | 4:19 PM

Hi Smack,

Interesting point of view, and thank you, thank you, thank you for sharing your opinion so eloquently.

If I may ask, are you saying that stating a dissenting opinion about the United States is something that may be acceptable within our borders, but in addressing a foreign nation, we should present a united front?

I like that sentiment of solidarity. It is a very honorable way of thinking.

As far as the damage done in stating their disdain about the President in a foreign country, imagine if they had been in front of Iraqis or North Koreans. OK, not likely, given their music and appearance, but bear with me... They, instead, spoke in front of an audience in England, our biggest ally in the war on terror and the war in Iraq. Tony Blair is considered by many to be President Bush's staunchest supporter in the league of world leaders.

I mention the Grammy win because typically, radio stations will play Grammy award-winning music more often than other selections. It is significant that some radio station are still refusing to play The Dixie Chicks' music.

This whole thing bugs me because the intent of this boycott is to damage or destroy their careers. It isn't a matter of choosing not to listen to someone with an opposing opinion, it's about silencing the group altogether.

Additional thoughts?

Thank you for considering my side of this issue and for participating in the discussion.

Emily_Byrd read my blog view my photos
Feb 13, 2007 | 4:25 PM

Hi Slfarr78,

It sounds like you and your aunt have a terrific bond and understanding of one another. Hats off to you both!

It wasn't my intention to seem liberal or conservative in discussing this issue. I've just grown weary of such widespread and long-lived ugliness over something that we should agree to disagree on.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences!

slfarr78 read my blog
Feb 13, 2007 | 4:41 PM

I don't think you sounded liberal or conservative. Freedom of speech is an American freedom, regardless of political views.

lilsumpthins read my blog view my photos
Feb 13, 2007 | 5:32 PM

This whole "shut up and sing" thing with the Dixie Chicks has bothered me for several years...

On one hand, I am pro-freedom of speech and think that the Dixie Chicks are great performers regardless of their political views. They deserved the awards they got because they are talented musicians.

But, on the other hand, I think that it was poor judgement and choice of words considering the audience that listens to that type of music. Didn't they realize from the time they started making their views known that they were going to cause a large part of their fans to stop listening? Why bite the hand that feeds you?

Of course, my hats off to anyone who stands up for something they believe strongly. Anyone includes the Dixie Chicks as well as our own President, who can sometime say the darndest things himself.

Right or Wrong, freedom of speech has to be protected...

I'm a Mary J Blige fan myself...

Jason_Clarke read my blog view my photos
Feb 13, 2007 | 6:00 PM

Just as the Dixie Chicks had the right to say what they did, I (and everyone else) have the right to not buy their CDs or go to their concerts. It's all part of our freedom of speech.

The Dixie Chicks are welcome to be mad about radio stations not playing their music, but they shouldn't be surprised. Actions have repercussions.

There are plenty of companies I won't buy from because of what causes they spend their money on or which candidates they support or how they treat their employees. It's one of the great things about a free-market economy. I can vote and speak with my wallet.

smack read my blog
Feb 13, 2007 | 7:27 PM

Emily,
I thank you for your honesty and yes I believe in solidarity for the sake of saving the freedoms we all enjoy. I do not believe in silencing the Chicks from their free speech rights anymore than I would want mine to be silenced.. but I must ask Do you think the Radio stations silenced their opinions by stopping their music? No should be the answer unless they were only using their music/stardom to promote their personal political agenda. They had to have known what the price to pay would be.. they chose to ignore it..My father always told me it is better to keep silent and let them think of you as fool than to open your mouth and prove them correct..If you are not willing to do the time do not do the crime..Secondly..Do you think that the comment was an off the cuff remark?..I do not..I believe it was a planned comment intended to rile up the British who disagreed with Tony Blair in the same fashion the Chicks disagreed with our President. Thirdly we are a society of brothers an sisters and regardless of our affiliations we are suppose to band together as a nation to protect what we have...this said Do you think we have become a society with so many rights we are losing our freedom? I do If not just think about this...America is the greatest nation on earth and and we cannot just be Americans without fear of what people will think about us or what they may do to us....

ThackerAgency read my blog view my photos
Feb 13, 2007 | 8:15 PM

smack,

your point is always missed these days. Criticism is fine in America to Americans - in fact it is expected.

But when Al Gore goes to Saudi Arabia and says the US is guilty of attrocities and war crimes (he did two years ago), and John Kerry (last week) in Switzerland at a meeting of world leaders says that the United States has essentially become a "bully" it is WRONG.

When Jimmy Carter does it too. . . it is WRONG. It used to be understood and a given that politics ended at the boarder because we are all Americans all over the world.

All it does is embolden our enemies and gives them reassurance that their attacks on America and Americans are justified.

Another good point from Jason is that free speech is a two way street. Dixie Chicks can say what they want, and people can boycott. They didn't win the grammy's because of their music. They won the grammy's for the Hollywood elite to "stick it to" the President.

TJMac
Feb 13, 2007 | 8:58 PM

What you describe Thacker is hypocrisy. You don't think with the availability of "free" news worldwide on the internet, people in other countries don't realize there is partisan politics in our country. I can be on the English version of almost any international news agency in just a few clicks, and there are no pictures of Bush and Pelosi waltzing in the rose garden. The trite argument pointing at the "Hollywood Elite" is becoming worn out. Rush Limbaugh became a millionaire by trashing Bill Clinton for eight years. Do you think he would do a 180 if he were in a foreign country, and do you believe citizens of Canada, Mexico, and even Cuba were not able to pick up his radio show? Keep thinking two-way street.

JQPublix read my blog view my photos
Feb 13, 2007 | 10:16 PM

TJmacs,

(I call you that cause you went out of business;)

I happen to agree with thacker on this one. They are as much ambassadors to the world as John McEnroe was at Wimbledon. They are as much ambassadors to the world as Jane Fonda was in Vietnam.

There is one aspect of being an ambassador that they can never be compared to though - that would be to our soldiers overseas. the reson is that the Dixie chicks are celebrities - they expect to command an audience.

In saying what they have abroad, they have undermined not only the president, but the country and any future presidencies.

ThackerAgency read my blog view my photos
Feb 13, 2007 | 11:53 PM

Thanks JQ buddy.

The Dixie Chicks themselves said in their acceptance speech that they won because people didn't like Bush. They (Hollywood people) all think what they say is more important than most people - even though they would reject the concept that they are role models when they do bad things.

It is a two way street. I certainly don't expect everyone to agree with what I say and that is fine. I don't agree with what a lot of people say either.

Here again. . . these things USED TO BE a given, sort of like a former President doesn't criticize the sitting president. It isn't a rule, and it may be "hypocrisy". When Kerry was talking bad about Americans in Switzerland, he was pointing that finger at himself without knowing it.

And Limbaugh would definitely NOT criticize America on foreign soil. He would either not comment or change the subject. But I'm not defending what Limbaugh does or says either.

Emily_Byrd read my blog view my photos
Feb 14, 2007 | 4:39 AM

I would like to make the point that ANYTHING said to any media outlet across the world is local and global news. The Internet makes it possible for all utterances, no matter the audience, to be communicated to anyone, anywhere, any time.

"They (Hollywood people) all think what they say is more important than most people" just sounds plain bitter. Why shouldn't every person in America be afforded the right to speak? Does it irritates you, Thacker, because they have a microphone in front of them?

slfarr78 read my blog
Feb 14, 2007 | 10:44 AM

Thacker,
I could be wrong, but I don't remember The Dixie Chicks saying anything about winning because people didn't like Bush. I know she made a few comments referring to freedom of speech, like 'Maybe you guys voted for this because you wanted to make a statement about free speech and we hear you,'"

ThackerAgency read my blog view my photos
Feb 14, 2007 | 10:56 AM

Emily, I have gotten to the point that I don't care anymore. It's called apathy. I think what I say is less important than what the Hollywood people say - and people would agree.

What I said was that it used to be the "rules". I only get upset when truth is distorted by people in position to provide information. I personally don't care what Hollywood says because I'm smart enough to make up my own mind. But the crotchless Britney is probably influencing our noble young American women - doesn't bother me and it's her right to do and say what she wants.

Right now I just sit and watch because I know what's going on - and I know how it is going to end. I don't know when, but all you need to do is study history to know that what people say isn't important to what ultimately will happen.

Global history repeats itself. Happy Valentine's Day, and be thankful we can celebrate it here in this Free and wonderful country - there are many countries (Saudi Arabia) where it is banned.

Emily_Byrd read my blog view my photos
Feb 14, 2007 | 11:14 AM

Main Entry: ap·a·thy
Pronunciation: 'a-p&-thE
Function: noun
1 : lack of feeling or emotion : IMPASSIVENESS
2 : lack of interest or concern : INDIFFERENCE

Thacker, you are the least apathethic person on these blogs. Anyone who has such detailed discussions on most every subject, who cares to express himself as much as you do, has feeling, interest and/or concern for the topic at hand.

You obviously have a need to be heard, and this is a terrific place for you to express your thoughts. Don't short-change yourself by saying that you are apathethic.

Speaking of the topic at hand, I would not draw lines of comparison between Britney's choice of undergarments (or lack thereof) and The Dixie Chicks making political statements. One is icky and should not be discussed and the other is provocative and should absolutely be discussed.

ThackerAgency read my blog view my photos
Feb 14, 2007 | 11:45 AM

but it's all free speech that would be illegal in a country that wasn't free.

This is entertainment for me.

I don't believe what I say or do here has any impact on anything. I'm smart, well read, and I have opinions - but I am also smart enough to know that people don't care what my opinions are. Opinions are like tail holes - everybody has one.

Like I said too. . . I do care when the truth is distorted by anyone.

Times have changed like you said. It used to be when you heard someone say "death to America" you were shocked. Now you are shocked if you don't hear it in some places, and you defend it as "free speech".

I am an actor. I can argue any side of any debate and make you believe that I am passionate to the point of fisticuffs because I UNDERSTAND all sides.

I have never voted because I am apathetic to who wins. I haven't liked any of the candidates, and don't think that the political system is designed to promote the best leaders with my interests at heart.

I guess you have been paying attention and have been entertained. That's all I hoped for. I try to make people "feel" with words. It's fun.

machman read my blog
Feb 14, 2007 | 2:38 PM

Doesn't Emily Byrd get enough time on the TV to annoy us with her opinions? Blogging opinions is fine because most people have the opportunity to respond. Why does Emily Byrd get to voice her opinions on TV when I can't demand equal time? I can choose not to read her blogs and I do change the channel when Emily Byrd shows up on the TV. I really hope that the Democrats will reinstate the Fairness Doctrine very, very soon.

Emily_Byrd read my blog view my photos
Feb 14, 2007 | 4:00 PM

Hi Machman,

I'm simply trying to get a good discussion going about a person's right to free speech. The Dixie Chicks controversy is a revived story of late, and it's an excellent opportunity to get people thinking and sharing ideas.

I'm glad that you took the opportunity to share your thoughts and hope you will continue to feel welcome to do so.

When our producers ask us to discuss a story on the news, I won't fake my way through it. Though you may not agree with my perspective, you and anyone else watching deserve better than a vacuous smile.

...and Thacker, I apologize if my comments to you were prickly. You are really good at presenting a challenging point of view.

JQPublix read my blog view my photos
Feb 15, 2007 | 12:46 AM

Haven't the chicks flown the coop? They have all diversfied into renewing their images.

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