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by Axekick from North Carolina

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Why have you not heard of this?

A gentleman from Erie named John Kanzius made a somewhat "shocking" discovery while he was working on a radio-wave generator he had developed for the treatment of cancer. While attempting to desalinate sea water using radio frequencies, he noticed flashes, and within a few days, had saltwater burning in a test-tube as if it were a candle. The discovery spawned interest from the scientific community, mostly concerned with whether or not the water could be used as a fuel, and of course, healthy doses of disbelief. Last week, a Penn State University chemist named Rustum Roy held a demonstration proving that the science is sound, noting that the water doesn't burn, though the radio frequencies weaken the bonds holding together the salt, releasing hydrogen which is ignited when exposed to the RF field. Mr. Kanzius and Dr. Roy say the question now is the efficiency of the energy, and are presenting the technology to the US Department of Defense and Department of Energy to investigate how useful the technology will be. Of the plentiful maybe-fuel (which apparently burns so hot it can melt test-tubes) Dr. Roy says, "This is the most abundant element in the world. It is everywhere," and (without recognition of the poetic irony, as far as we can tell), "Seeing it burn gives me chills." Check the TV report after the break to see the water in action. 

 

 

Mr. Kanzius  wife has cancer do you  think he could sale this to EXXON and use the money to further his cancer research. I have seen this technique run a small engine and I know it could be used in an internal combustion motor.

 

You can watch the process in action at this website: http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/11/can-saltwater-be-bur
ned-as-fuel/

 

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Axekick read my blog view my photos
May 20, 2008 | 9:58 PM

For all you green folks the by product of this process would be fresh water, you could maybe have some type of holding tank in the vehicle instead of a gas tank it would hold fresh water from the hydrogen process. Just an idea!

caddyboy read my blog view my photos
May 21, 2008 | 12:15 PM

Truly amazing.

gadget410 read my blog view my photos
May 21, 2008 | 2:53 PM

It is a neat idea but we need to know how much energy the machine consumes versus the hydrogen fuel produced. In the currently known electrolysis type hydrogen generators they consume more energy than they produce. I would really hope that an individual like this might stumble on to something that could definitely change our energy needs for the future. Hydrogen is probably one of the most abundant elements in the universe, efficient extraction is going to be the key to making it work but i believe it can be done.

ThackerAgency read my blog view my photos
May 21, 2008 | 3:31 PM

This is cool, and hopefully it will work. As you noted Axe and gadget, the question is how much energy will it take to separate the hydrogen from the oxygen. The bond is so strong that any attempt to do so took more energy than it created.

But if you've seen it work, it probably can happen. Maybe radio frequencies can loosen the bond enough to make it feasible. Interesting.

mrmajestic read my blog view my photos
May 21, 2008 | 6:48 PM

The oil lobbyists will try to shut it down. Remember the guy from Burlington who was processing and selling veggie oil "diesel" and the EPA shut him down, saying he was producing fuel and didn't have the zoning to do so.

We say we want to find alternatives but lobbyists grease the wheels for oil producers and right now they have two "inside" men in the white house. Look at how the EPA is handled today. Just think, if it hadn't been for Hurricane Katrina we'd still be paying $2.59 for regular gas. Yeah right. Nothing will happen until after November. High prices are here to stay. No one is going to say, "oh wait, we made a mistake, we're going to lower the price by a couple of dollars"

Axekick read my blog view my photos
May 22, 2008 | 5:57 AM

mrmajectic
I was talking with an engineer earlier in the week and he said Mr.Kanzius had already sold his discovery, so it will probably sit in the vault of some big oil company. Also I stand corrected Mr. Kanzius has cancer not his wife.

gadget410 read my blog view my photos
May 22, 2008 | 3:07 PM

The petroleum industry has been subsidized by the government almost since the beginning. Individuals and alternative energy get next to nothing in most cases maybe a tax break for a while but that is usually it.

mrmajestic read my blog view my photos
May 22, 2008 | 4:40 PM

Gadget410,

What do you think of this?


http://water4gas.com/2books.htm?hop=bobrob916

DW45 read my blog view my photos
May 22, 2008 | 7:56 PM

You're right, Axe...- Exxon (or Halliburton) will buy it, then BURY it (DEEP)!

Gadget's right, too...Having to carry around 400lbs of saltwater (plus the remainder, fresh water or not, would offset the economy of the idea...?

AvGas = 6lbs/gal
Oil = 7.5lbs/gal
(fresh) water = 8 lbs/gal

Dunno about saltwater...Too tired to get out the Physics Book...

Man, that would be the ticket, though, wouldn't it?....Plus, they'd have something ELSE to tax...!?

gadget410 read my blog view my photos
May 23, 2008 | 6:59 PM

Mrmajestic, I am currently working on a hydrogen electrolyzer that does the same thing that this guy's unit will do. I want to try to prove just how much it will improve if any. I feel that with a computer controlled engine system the hydrogen will look like more fuel than is needed to the oxygen sensor and the computer on the car will reduce the injector on time and in turn the amount of fuel being injected in the engine. If true the result will have to be increased fuel mileage. I wouldn't buy one just yet, I would be willing to share my findings, and give you and anyone else that wants it information on building and experimenting with your own device. The electrolyzer is not anything new it has been around for years, it is finding an alloy and catalyst to form the hydrogen without consuming excessive current that is the big issue. More later.

mrmajestic read my blog view my photos
May 25, 2008 | 9:40 PM

I would like to try something like this on my 1999 Ford F250 V10. It has a 430 rear end and only gets 9mpg with A/C. It will pull a dodge sideways and uphill without a lot of engine rev.

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